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PostSubject: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Tue May 25, 2010 4:58 pm

This topic shall be used to state theories dealing with the Umineko anime and/or Higurashi anime.

By this measure, players, demons and unwilling sacrifices shall together be able to continue their struggle against my hellish riddle without accidentally tripping over, gouging or disembowelling one another.

With love,
Beatrice the Golden,
Ushiromiya House Alchemy Counselor
and
Golden Witch of a Thousand Years


Moderator Edit: Changing topic name and slight edit to your message ;oo

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Tue May 25, 2010 5:28 pm

Hmmm..., I got one of my old theories (which ima be usin for my negima fanfic) concerning the existence of magical beings ^^;;

Hypothesis: The Imaginary World

The imaginary number "i" is the excessive information that is "just there" when in math. Therefore, the same should apply to our world too, as if there's a world of reality and an imaginary world. This imaginary world is not created by God, because God only creates things that are in the reality world.

So who's responsible for the existence of the imaginary world? Let's start with the word "imaginary". Back in the past, the people that existed do not have the knowledge that we've obtained today, and because of that, people rely on their "imaginary" hypothesises to explain for the reality of the world. One of them, that is, in the past, is the "sea monster", whom became to this day the octopus. And where do you see a "sea monster" with claws of fury, tentacles of despair, and heinous twisting expressions? The imaginary world!

It's because of the creativity from the right (sided) brain of people's minds that created this world, and the only way to sustain it is the continuous belief that they WILL exist. That is why we always reproduce, pass on our memories, and live on until it is our turn to recycle.

However, those "imaginary" beings that people believed in are slowly fading away, because more knowledge of the "reality" that people believed in now are dominating the planet. Because of the industrial revolution, technology is created, and with more technology, we pass down more information than what we could've done back in the old days. And with the continuous supply of information, we are constantly developing our "common sense" that the "imaginary" beings are nonexistence.

That is why, if we were to be those "imaginary" beings, we would cling onto a point of view where the humans (dominate race of reality world) are the enemies. If we get rid of the people who are continuously supplying other people with the "reality" information (aka negative energy), then what of their "imaginary" beliefs?

There is no real solution for the fact that humans can't coexist with the imaginary beings.

Because of their vast knowledge of “reality” (a.k.a. supply of negative energy), the humans are slowly decaying their "imaginary" side, and eventually will destroy what's left of the "imaginary" world, replacing it with more "imaginary" beings that are more reasonable to exist than the "imaginary" beings of the past. And, of course from the past "imaginary" beings point of view, they wouldn't like that to happen.

It's because they don't want to be wiped out; everyone in this world has a goal for their race to survive.

But to kill humans (which solves the negative energy that will eventually dominate the "imaginary" world), wouldn't that also kill the "imaginary" beings that the humans start creating back in the old days? In order to sustain the "imaginary" world, they have to rely on the "imaginary" beliefs from humans, which is from the right/creative side of the human brain. And there is no use to kill all humans and preserve their right brains, because it'll eventually die down; a brain alone cannot help unless if it's alive to continuously sustain its life; it's a gas fuel for the car, because the car is continuously driving, and it’s a limited fuel.

That is why there is no true solution to solve the problem, and the "imaginary" beings will eventually be weighed down to the point of despair.

In other words, it's kill and/or be killed.

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Wed May 26, 2010 3:23 am

lilfriend400 wrote:
Hmmm..., I got one of my old theories (which ima be usin for my negima fanfic) concerning the existence of magical beings ^^;;

Hypothesis: The Imaginary World

The imaginary number "i" is the excessive information that is "just there" when in math. Therefore, the same should apply to our world too, as if there's a world of reality and an imaginary world. This imaginary world is not created by God, because God only creates things that are in the reality world.

So who's responsible for the existence of the imaginary world? Let's start with the word "imaginary". Back in the past, the people that existed do not have the knowledge that we've obtained today, and because of that, people rely on their "imaginary" hypothesises to explain for the reality of the world. One of them, that is, in the past, is the "sea monster", whom became to this day the octopus. And where do you see a "sea monster" with claws of fury, tentacles of despair, and heinous twisting expressions? The imaginary world!

It's because of the creativity from the right (sided) brain of people's minds that created this world, and the only way to sustain it is the continuous belief that they WILL exist. That is why we always reproduce, pass on our memories, and live on until it is our turn to recycle.

However, those "imaginary" beings that people believed in are slowly fading away, because more knowledge of the "reality" that people believed in now are dominating the planet. Because of the industrial revolution, technology is created, and with more technology, we pass down more information than what we could've done back in the old days. And with the continuous supply of information, we are constantly developing our "common sense" that the "imaginary" beings are nonexistence.

That is why, if we were to be those "imaginary" beings, we would cling onto a point of view where the humans (dominate race of reality world) are the enemies. If we get rid of the people who are continuously supplying other people with the "reality" information (aka negative energy), then what of their "imaginary" beliefs?

There is no real solution for the fact that humans can't coexist with the imaginary beings.

Because of their vast knowledge of “reality” (a.k.a. supply of negative energy), the humans are slowly decaying their "imaginary" side, and eventually will destroy what's left of the "imaginary" world, replacing it with more "imaginary" beings that are more reasonable to exist than the "imaginary" beings of the past. And, of course from the past "imaginary" beings point of view, they wouldn't like that to happen.

It's because they don't want to be wiped out; everyone in this world has a goal for their race to survive.

But to kill humans (which solves the negative energy that will eventually dominate the "imaginary" world), wouldn't that also kill the "imaginary" beings that the humans start creating back in the old days? In order to sustain the "imaginary" world, they have to rely on the "imaginary" beliefs from humans, which is from the right/creative side of the human brain. And there is no use to kill all humans and preserve their right brains, because it'll eventually die down; a brain alone cannot help unless if it's alive to continuously sustain its life; it's a gas fuel for the car, because the car is continuously driving, and it’s a limited fuel.

That is why there is no true solution to solve the problem, and the "imaginary" beings will eventually be weighed down to the point of despair.

In other words, it's kill and/or be killed.


This wouldn't quite work for the witches...

*SPOILER*

Lambdadelta, Evatrice, and Bernkastel (that's right, NOT Beatrice) all kill and play games with humans for the fun of it. Also Maria explains in order to see the Meta-world (or the Imaginary world as you call it, Meta-world's the Umineko term if I'm correct) it's not about what you're brain wants you to see. It's if you have love ("Without love it cannot be seen") and happiness(The reason why Maria says "Uu~" so much is because she believes it's a happiness charm,right?)

The theory might work better for Negima but now so much Umineko.

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Wed May 26, 2010 5:43 pm

Hunh.., you do got a point there xDD Mmeh..., but then again, its an old theory that I made, so no big digs x3

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Wed May 26, 2010 6:25 pm

Ah it's ok~

What about the pony theory?
It's been pretty popular lately....

http://img148.imageshack.us/i/ponytheory.jpg/

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Wed May 26, 2010 7:17 pm

-is overwhelmed by all the information- @.@;;

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Thu May 27, 2010 4:53 pm

Feel the power D:<

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:39 pm

Then again, is it possible that the magic was a mere hallucination?

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:30 am

If so,it's probabally Maria's. In the manga they do have pictures of Lambda and Bern in her journal...BEFORE THEY EVEN SHOW UP.

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:43 am

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...BEFORE THEY EVEN SHOW UP.
Exactly xP

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:32 pm

It seems to be implied Maria might become one of the most powerful witches, which makes one wonder...

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:50 pm

Or is it all in her mind? ;oo

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:00 pm

GAAH!! This is so confusing!

It's useless...it's all useless...

Beatrice: *Trollface*

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:03 pm

lol ^^;; Well, what do you think about Beatrice's logic then?

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PostSubject: Re: Umineko/Higurashi Theories   Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:19 pm

I think all Umineko logic is confusing,honestly XD

Yeah ok Battler. You're going to tell a witch you don't believe in her RIGHT TO HER FACE.

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